tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734902152162231132.post4817218152850332426..comments2023-10-09T13:33:24.033-07:00Comments on Aussie Pete: You Can Put Lipstick On A Pig - It's Still Rape!!Aussie Petehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04893185575367843149noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734902152162231132.post-38996891903824258292009-07-21T08:31:53.857-07:002009-07-21T08:31:53.857-07:00Hey Solo,
I'm sure the foundation of marriage...Hey Solo,<br /><br />I'm sure the foundation of marriage doesn't simply hinge on the individual's access to his/her partner's sexual bits 24/7, right? If indeed 'loved ones' are incapable of committing heinous rape such as PP v N, then where's the harm in abolishing the immunity? The really good people who uphold more honorable concepts of marriage will invariably be safe and secure. So in a way, doesn't this movement at least suggests to make marriage more rigorous?<br /><br />I don't know. I find the preoccupation with false claims a bit muddy. There're other ways to be sexually vengeful, I suppose. If the website were right (choke full of info, thanks Pete!), then wives can already file for oral/ anal rape which is not covered by the immunity, without having to consider the technicalities of what non-consent means, etc.<br /><br />Lastly, I contine to apostrophize loved-ones because that conception is hard to determine universally as well, even for me. The legal reporting doesn't state if N didn't love his wife anymore, and can't arbitrarily determine it based on what either one of us thinks. Love in bondage and abuse aren't unheard of, but I think there should be limits--in this case, if it's rape then a definite no-no.<br /><br />Anyway, that's all for this. Thanks for the reply. And more props to Pete for the space and highlight of the campaign. Wish I could support it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734902152162231132.post-39985092212940420632009-07-21T06:51:10.183-07:002009-07-21T06:51:10.183-07:00Hi Solo Bear... thanks as always - I've always...Hi Solo Bear... thanks as always - I've always respected your viewpoint... in this case, I disagree with your position (to the most part). Having said that and after reading your linked article, I find your logic (although like I said i cannot agree with it all) is at least well thought out, and I know that you speak from the heart. It is this type of writing that will spark and encourage positive debate (as opposed to the forum that I have alluded to).<br /><br />Anonymous - thanks also for your input - I agree whole heartedly and the intention of my article here is in support of the cause. One should not be blind-sided by 'conspiracy' theories and perceived hidden agendas. Having said that, I am completely in support of healthy debate - this is what brings about positive change through awareness in any society.<br /><br />Thanks again to the both of you.Aussie Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04893185575367843149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734902152162231132.post-54338524383676034742009-07-21T06:48:33.557-07:002009-07-21T06:48:33.557-07:00Anon
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Had a look at the site, and found th...Anon<br />>><br />Had a look at the site, and found the mention of 'Public Prosecutor vs N' somewhat convincing. That case seems pretty much rape, no? <br />>><br /><br />So because of this one case you want to throw the foundation of marriage out. Isn't this throwing the baby out of the bathwater? <br /><br />>><br />Unless you can suggest a better solution to addressing what seems an obvious criminal offence, such as in the case of PP v N? <br />>><br /><br />Battery, abuse, illegally holding someone against her will! <br /><br />Obviously in the case above, there is hardly any love left. A phone bill could lead to this? It is quite obvious that their marriage is already on the rocks. It could well be that the wife is using this case to get a divorce. <br /><br />Your idea that the husband "loves" his wife is misplaced. I don't see any love left. Any loving husband wouldn't do that to wife. <br /><br />If you want to stop domestic abuse, let's address that.Hermithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17512674272141731940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734902152162231132.post-12176323772546371322009-07-21T05:47:55.996-07:002009-07-21T05:47:55.996-07:00@ Solo Bear,
Had a look at the site, and found th...@ Solo Bear,<br /><br />Had a look at the site, and found the mention of <a href="http://www.notorape.com/blog/2009/07/21/public-prosecutor-v-n-facts/" rel="nofollow">'Public Prosecutor vs N'</a> somewhat convincing. That case seems pretty much rape, no? <br /><br />I also had a look at your family busters link, and am not convinced that you're not throwing the baby out of the bathwater here. Your vitriol at the organisers and supporters seems to unnecessarily displace the strength of the cause. Instead of debasing the cause completely, maybe you can recommend stringently adhering to only the support of this cause, but not their other agendas (imagined or otherwise). <br /><br />Unless you can suggest a better solution to addressing what seems an obvious criminal offence, such as in the case of PP v N? I think it's important because the permutations of PPvN abound, even if it's beyond your imaginaion that a husband is capable of such an aggrieved offence towards his 'loved one'. (Actually, I don't think anyone ever goes into a marriage predicting sexual abuse.)<br /><br />Don't know. Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734902152162231132.post-33415439709538771882009-07-20T20:54:08.008-07:002009-07-20T20:54:08.008-07:00Hi Pete,
I hold a different view.
I feel that th...Hi Pete,<br /><br />I hold a different view.<br /><br />I feel that this is part of a wider plan to deconstruct the family.<br /><br /><a href="http://wherebearsroamfree.blogspot.com/2009/07/family-busters-on-loose-again.html" rel="nofollow">Family Busters on the loose again</a>-<br /><br />In any case, how do you define "no consent" on part of wife, such that it constitutes "rape"?Hermithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17512674272141731940noreply@blogger.com